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All the icons disappeared from gnome panel / nautilus in unstable

Pasi Kärkkäinen
Hi!

I'm running Debian unstable with the latest packages (upgraded today), and
today after a while I decided to log out of X and then logged back in from gdm..

gconf asked if it could convert the settings, and I accepted.. after that nothing happened, I
only got gray screen. Well, I could move the mouse cursor but nothing else..

Well.. pressed ctrl+alt+backspace and tried again. Still nothing. Only gray.

Then I removed all the .gnome* .gconf* .nauti* .metaci* files from my
homedirectory, and also from /tmp/* but I still couldn't get gnome working
properly. Now I got black desktop, with gnome panel maybe 50 pixels wide.
Nothing else.

Then I decided to remove all the gnome related packages and reinstalled with
"apt-get install gnome gnome-desktop".. also removed all the .gnome* .gconf*
files from homedirectory again.

Now, I got somewhat working desktop, but without icons.. no icons in
nautilus, no icons in gnome-panel..

screenshot:
http://nrg.joroinen.fi/gnome-unstable.png 

More problems.. when I try to change/check theme settins.. from Desktop ->
Preferences -> Themes I get this kind of error:

"The default theme schemas could not be found on your system.  This means
that you probably don't have metacity installed, or that your gconf is
configured incorrectly."

Well, I have metacity installed (also purged and reinstalled it)..

I guess it's gconf related.. ?

Any ideas?

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Re: All the icons disappeared from gnome panel / nautilus in unstable

Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 16:40 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit :

> screenshot:
> http://nrg.joroinen.fi/gnome-unstable.png 
>
> More problems.. when I try to change/check theme settins.. from Desktop ->
> Preferences -> Themes I get this kind of error:
>
> "The default theme schemas could not be found on your system.  This means
> that you probably don't have metacity installed, or that your gconf is
> configured incorrectly."
>
> Well, I have metacity installed (also purged and reinstalled it)..
>
> I guess it's gconf related.. ?

Either it is gnome-settings-daemon that isn't running properly, or it is
a stale gconfd-2 process. Have you tried to kill those processes if they
are still running? Is there anything meaningful in your .xsession-errors
file ?
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Re: All the icons disappeared from gnome panel / nautilus in unstable

Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 04:04:38PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:

> Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 16:40 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit :
> > screenshot:
> > http://nrg.joroinen.fi/gnome-unstable.png 
> >
> > More problems.. when I try to change/check theme settins.. from Desktop ->
> > Preferences -> Themes I get this kind of error:
> >
> > "The default theme schemas could not be found on your system.  This means
> > that you probably don't have metacity installed, or that your gconf is
> > configured incorrectly."
> >
> > Well, I have metacity installed (also purged and reinstalled it)..
> >
> > I guess it's gconf related.. ?
>
> Either it is gnome-settings-daemon that isn't running properly, or it is
> a stale gconfd-2 process. Have you tried to kill those processes if they
> are still running? Is there anything meaningful in your .xsession-errors
> file ?

gnome-settings-daemon seems to be running, and gconfd-2 also. I have also
rebooted, didn't help..

There are some errors like this in .xsession-errors:

(evolution-2.4:14367): e-canvas.c-CRITICAL **: e_canvas_item_grab_focus:
assertion TK_WIDGET_CAN_FOCUS (GTK_WIDGET (item->canvas))' failed

** (gnome-terminal:13919): WARNING **: No handler for control sequence
'Device-control-string' defined.

(evolution-2.4:14367): camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with
NULL parameter.

** (galeon:14294): CRITICAL **: gul_gui_image_set_from_mime_type: assertion
con_info != NULL' failed

All of those are repeated many times.. but I don't know if those are
related..

-- Pasi

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Re: All the icons disappeared from gnome panel / nautilus in unstable

Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 17:14 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit :
> > Either it is gnome-settings-daemon that isn't running properly, or it is
> > a stale gconfd-2 process. Have you tried to kill those processes if they
> > are still running? Is there anything meaningful in your .xsession-errors
> > file ?
>
> gnome-settings-daemon seems to be running, and gconfd-2 also. I have also
> rebooted, didn't help..

Now, what happens if you try to read some gconf values by hand:
gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme

Also, do you see them in gconf-editor ?
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Re: All the icons disappeared from gnome panel / nautilus in unstable

Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 04:20:22PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:

> Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 17:14 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit :
> > > Either it is gnome-settings-daemon that isn't running properly, or it is
> > > a stale gconfd-2 process. Have you tried to kill those processes if they
> > > are still running? Is there anything meaningful in your .xsession-errors
> > > file ?
> >
> > gnome-settings-daemon seems to be running, and gconfd-2 also. I have also
> > rebooted, didn't help..
>
> Now, what happens if you try to read some gconf values by hand:
> gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme
>
> Also, do you see them in gconf-editor ?

$ gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme
No value set for `/desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme'

When I check that with gconf-editor, it seems that the whole
/desktop/gnome/interfaces is missing!

I also added completely new user to the system, rebooted, and logged in with
that new user.. same problem, icons missing etc..

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Re: All the icons disappeared from gnome panel / nautilus in unstable

Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 17:30 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit :
> $ gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme
> No value set for `/desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme'
>
> When I check that with gconf-editor, it seems that the whole
> /desktop/gnome/interfaces is missing!

Only this directory or all directories ?
What if you run (as root)
'gconf-schemas --register desktop_gnome_interface.schemas'?
Can you show the result of 'ls -l /var/lib/gconf/defaults'?

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Re: All the icons disappeared from gnome panel / nautilus in unstable

Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 04:41:10PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:

> Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 17:30 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit :
> > $ gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme
> > No value set for `/desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme'
> >
> > When I check that with gconf-editor, it seems that the whole
> > /desktop/gnome/interfaces is missing!
>
> Only this directory or all directories ?
> What if you run (as root)
> 'gconf-schemas --register desktop_gnome_interface.schemas'?
> Can you show the result of 'ls -l /var/lib/gconf/defaults'?
>

Only the "interface" is missing, I can see these under /desktop/gnome:

accessibility
applications
background
file_views
font_rendering
url-handlers
volume_manager

$ ls -l /var/lib/gconf/defaults
total 24340
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24893078 2006-01-26 16:09 %gconf-tree.xml

I ran 'gconf-schemas --register desktop_gnome_interface.schemas', and
after that logged out and logged back in, and now the icons are back!

Also the "Desktop -> Preferences -> Theme" works now! And when checking out
the gconf-editor, the missing "interface" is back there..

I wonder what caused this problem.. It must be the gconf configfile (?)
migration which obviously failed in the beginning of this mess..

Thanks!

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Re: All the icons disappeared from gnome panel / nautilus in unstable

Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 17:47 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit :
> I ran 'gconf-schemas --register desktop_gnome_interface.schemas', and
> after that logged out and logged back in, and now the icons are back!
>
> Also the "Desktop -> Preferences -> Theme" works now! And when checking out
> the gconf-editor, the missing "interface" is back there..
>
> I wonder what caused this problem.. It must be the gconf configfile (?)
> migration which obviously failed in the beginning of this mess..

It has nothing to do with anything that could have possibly happened to
your $HOME. The strangest thing is that you tell you have reinstalled
all of GNOME: did this include libgnome2-common ? That's the faulty
package.

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Re: All the icons disappeared from gnome panel / nautilus in unstable

Pasi Kärkkäinen
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On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 05:47:50PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 04:41:10PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 17:30 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit :
> > > $ gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme
> > > No value set for `/desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme'
> > >
> > > When I check that with gconf-editor, it seems that the whole
> > > /desktop/gnome/interfaces is missing!
> >
> > Only this directory or all directories ?
> > What if you run (as root)
> > 'gconf-schemas --register desktop_gnome_interface.schemas'?
> > Can you show the result of 'ls -l /var/lib/gconf/defaults'?
> >
>
> Only the "interface" is missing, I can see these under /desktop/gnome:
>
> accessibility
> applications
> background
> file_views
> font_rendering
> url-handlers
> volume_manager
>
> $ ls -l /var/lib/gconf/defaults
> total 24340
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24893078 2006-01-26 16:09 %gconf-tree.xml
>
> I ran 'gconf-schemas --register desktop_gnome_interface.schemas', and
> after that logged out and logged back in, and now the icons are back!
>
> Also the "Desktop -> Preferences -> Theme" works now! And when checking out
> the gconf-editor, the missing "interface" is back there..
>
> I wonder what caused this problem.. It must be the gconf configfile (?)
> migration which obviously failed in the beginning of this mess..
>

In fact I still seem to have some problems:

$ gnome-keyboard-properties

(gnome-keyboard-properties:6826): capplet-common-WARNING **: NULL GConf
value: /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/repeat: possibly incomplete setup

(gnome-keyboard-properties:6826): capplet-common-WARNING **: NULL GConf
value: /desktop/gnome/typing_break/enabled: possibly incomplete setup


What other schemes should I register? I wonder why these are not registered
automatically..

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Re: All the icons disappeared from gnome panel / nautilus in unstable

Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 17:56 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit :

> In fact I still seem to have some problems:
>
> $ gnome-keyboard-properties
>
> (gnome-keyboard-properties:6826): capplet-common-WARNING **: NULL GConf
> value: /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/repeat: possibly incomplete setup
>
> (gnome-keyboard-properties:6826): capplet-common-WARNING **: NULL GConf
> value: /desktop/gnome/typing_break/enabled: possibly incomplete setup
>
>
> What other schemes should I register? I wonder why these are not registered
> automatically..

You'd better reinstall libgnome2-common entirely...
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Re: All the icons disappeared from gnome panel / nautilus in unstable

Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 05:01:21PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:

> Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 17:56 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit :
> > In fact I still seem to have some problems:
> >
> > $ gnome-keyboard-properties
> >
> > (gnome-keyboard-properties:6826): capplet-common-WARNING **: NULL GConf
> > value: /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/repeat: possibly incomplete setup
> >
> > (gnome-keyboard-properties:6826): capplet-common-WARNING **: NULL GConf
> > value: /desktop/gnome/typing_break/enabled: possibly incomplete setup
> >
> >
> > What other schemes should I register? I wonder why these are not registered
> > automatically..
>
> You'd better reinstall libgnome2-common entirely...
>

That fixed the problems.. Thanks!

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Re: All the icons disappeared from gnome panel / nautilus in unstable

Adam C Powell IV
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 21:44 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 05:01:21PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 17:56 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit :
> > > In fact I still seem to have some problems:
> > >
> > > $ gnome-keyboard-properties
> > >
> > > (gnome-keyboard-properties:6826): capplet-common-WARNING **: NULL GConf
> > > value: /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/repeat: possibly incomplete setup
> > >
> > > (gnome-keyboard-properties:6826): capplet-common-WARNING **: NULL GConf
> > > value: /desktop/gnome/typing_break/enabled: possibly incomplete setup
> > >
> > >
> > > What other schemes should I register? I wonder why these are not registered
> > > automatically..
> >
> > You'd better reinstall libgnome2-common entirely...
>
> That fixed the problems.. Thanks!

Thanks, that fixed the identical problem for me which appeared on an
upgrade last week from sarge to etch (2.10).  One machine had this
problem, two others didn't.

Could it be that the order of package installation or configuration
sometimes leads to this issue?  This sounds like an important bug...

-Adam
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Re: All the icons disappeared from gnome panel / nautilus in unstable

Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 09:35:58PM -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote:

> On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 21:44 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 05:01:21PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 17:56 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit :
> > > > In fact I still seem to have some problems:
> > > >
> > > > $ gnome-keyboard-properties
> > > >
> > > > (gnome-keyboard-properties:6826): capplet-common-WARNING **: NULL GConf
> > > > value: /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/repeat: possibly incomplete setup
> > > >
> > > > (gnome-keyboard-properties:6826): capplet-common-WARNING **: NULL GConf
> > > > value: /desktop/gnome/typing_break/enabled: possibly incomplete setup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What other schemes should I register? I wonder why these are not registered
> > > > automatically..
> > >
> > > You'd better reinstall libgnome2-common entirely...
> >
> > That fixed the problems.. Thanks!
>
> Thanks, that fixed the identical problem for me which appeared on an
> upgrade last week from sarge to etch (2.10).  One machine had this
> problem, two others didn't.
>
> Could it be that the order of package installation or configuration
> sometimes leads to this issue?  This sounds like an important bug...
>
> -Adam

Yes.. I also had this problem only in 1/3 computers :)

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