Bug#612516: Installation Report Debian Installer 6.0 Release Candidate 1 release

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Bug#612516: Installation Report Debian Installer 6.0 Release Candidate 1 release

Joey Schulze
Package: installation-reports

Boot method: network
Image version: Debian version:  6.0 (squeeze), Installer build: 20110117-15:57
Date: Thu Jan 20 16:39:54 CET 2011

Machine: Lenovo Ideapad S10e

Comments/Problems:

The installation went fine after I removed the "quiet" option from the
kernel commandline.  This was required to see the error message of the
kernel noting that the requested video mode (793 or something) is not
available on this system.

The kernel was waiting for user input (TAB or ENTER).  Due to the
"quiet" option the user wasn't informed that they need to press one
of two keys.

I've installed lenny on the system a while ago, also with network
boot, and this worked fine.  I don't remember having to remove the
"quiet" option.


Output of lspci -knn (or lspci -nn):

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:27ae] (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller [0380]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:27a6] (rev 03)


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        Joey

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Bug#612516: Installation Report Debian Installer 6.0 Release Candidate 1 release

Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Schulze ([hidden email]):
> Package: installation-reports
>
> Boot method: network
> Image version: Debian version:  6.0 (squeeze), Installer build: 20110117-15:57
> Date: Thu Jan 20 16:39:54 CET 2011
>
> Machine: Lenovo Ideapad S10e

Hey Joey, nice to hear from you in this list (it's been some time...)

>
> Comments/Problems:
>
> The installation went fine after I removed the "quiet" option from the
> kernel commandline.  This was required to see the error message of the
> kernel noting that the requested video mode (793 or something) is not
> available on this system.
>
> The kernel was waiting for user input (TAB or ENTER).  Due to the
> "quiet" option the user wasn't informed that they need to press one
> of two keys.
>
> I've installed lenny on the system a while ago, also with network
> boot, and this worked fine.  I don't remember having to remove the
> "quiet" option.

I'm unsure what we could do here.

The "quiet" option was added as it seemed to be a good idea that
default installs don't spit out "useless" messages to users. Of
course, in this case, the message is not useless..:)

The "expert" install doesn't have the "quiet" option, so that could be
a way to go: suggest users that hangs during boot can be debugged by
using the "expert" install. So, the bug would then become a
documentation bug.

Another option is to suggest that the quiet option passed to the
kernel doesn't suppress messages related to video mode in case the
video mode doesn't exist. This would then be a kernel bug.

Anyone with an advice about this?



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Bug#612516: Installation Report Debian Installer 6.0 Release Candidate 1 release

Gaudenz Steinlin
Excerpts from Christian PERRIER's message of Mit Feb 09 06:50:26 +0100 2011:
>
> Another option is to suggest that the quiet option passed to the
> kernel doesn't suppress messages related to video mode in case the
> video mode doesn't exist. This would then be a kernel bug.
>
> Anyone with an advice about this?

IMHO this is a kernel bug. Even with the quiet option the kernel
should not suppress messages the user absolutely needs to see to be
able to proceed. Also AFAIUI this issue is not d-i specific.

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Bug#612516: Installation Report Debian Installer 6.0 Release Candidate 1 release

Otavio Salvador-2
reassign 612516 linux-2.6
found 612516 2.6.32-29
retitle 612516 quiet option shouldn't hide unsupported video mode question
thanks

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 07:53, Gaudenz Steinlin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Excerpts from Christian PERRIER's message of Mit Feb 09 06:50:26 +0100 2011:
>>
>> Another option is to suggest that the quiet option passed to the
>> kernel doesn't suppress messages related to video mode in case the
>> video mode doesn't exist. This would then be a kernel bug.
>>
>> Anyone with an advice about this?
>
> IMHO this is a kernel bug. Even with the quiet option the kernel
> should not suppress messages the user absolutely needs to see to be
> able to proceed. Also AFAIUI this issue is not d-i specific.

Yes. I agree that this is a kernel issue.

Reassigning according.

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