Bug#858210: suggests alsa-base, which no longer exists

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Bug#858210: suggests alsa-base, which no longer exists

Michael Biebl-3
Package: education-thin-client
Version: 1.921
Severity: normal

alsa-base was a transitional dummy package in jessie and has been
removed for stretch.

Please drop the suggests in education-thin-client.

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Bug#858209: Bug#858210: suggests alsa-base, which no longer exists

Holger Levsen-2
Hi Michael,

thanks for your bug reports!

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 08:44:22PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> alsa-base was a transitional dummy package in jessie and has been
> removed for stretch.
>
> Please drop the suggests in education-thin-client.
 
(this is due to our usage of blends-dev which turns all unknown packages into
suggests. I don't really like it, but thats the way the education-*
metapackages work… anyway…)

Shall we replace alsa-base with kmod then? or is that rather useless, because
udev and others already depend on kmod?


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Bug#858209: Bug#858210: suggests alsa-base, which no longer exists

Wolfgang Schweer-3
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21:48AM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Shall we replace alsa-base with kmod then? or is that rather useless, because
> udev and others already depend on kmod?

Seems to be useless; already pulled in:

[wolfgang@star CD-administrator]$ grep kmod pkgdeblist-stretch-usbstick.txt
kmod_23-2_amd64.deb
kmod_23-2_i386.deb
libkmod2-udeb_23-2_amd64.udeb
libkmod2-udeb_23-2_i386.udeb
libkmod2_23-2_amd64.deb
libkmod2_23-2_i386.deb
libmikmod3_3.3.10-1_amd64.deb
libmikmod3_3.3.10-1_i386.deb


Wolfgang

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Bug#858209: Bug#858210: suggests alsa-base, which no longer exists

Michael Biebl-3
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Hi Holger

Am 20.03.2017 um 11:21 schrieb Holger Levsen:
> Shall we replace alsa-base with kmod then? or is that rather useless, because
> udev and others already depend on kmod?

For that to answer properly, I would need to know why the suggests
alsa-base was added in the first place.
Can you go into a bit more detail here?

Michael
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Bug#858209: Bug#858210: suggests alsa-base, which no longer exists

Wolfgang Schweer-3
Hi.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 03:30:15PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 20.03.2017 um 11:21 schrieb Holger Levsen:
> > Shall we replace alsa-base with kmod then? or is that rather
> > useless, because udev and others already depend on kmod?
>
> For that to answer properly, I would need to know why the suggests
> alsa-base was added in the first place.

AFAICT it has been added (years ago) to ensure that sound will work.
I've tested if sound works for the Debian Edu supported DEs (KDE, MATE,
Xfce, LXDE, GNOME) in Stretch: it does. As kmod is already pulled in, no
replacement is needed, I guess.

Wolfgang

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Bug#858209: Bug#858210: suggests alsa-base, which no longer exists

Michael Biebl-3
Am 20.03.2017 um 18:41 schrieb Wolfgang Schweer:

> Hi.
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 03:30:15PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
>> Am 20.03.2017 um 11:21 schrieb Holger Levsen:
>>> Shall we replace alsa-base with kmod then? or is that rather
>>> useless, because udev and others already depend on kmod?
>>
>> For that to answer properly, I would need to know why the suggests
>> alsa-base was added in the first place.
>
> AFAICT it has been added (years ago) to ensure that sound will work.
> I've tested if sound works for the Debian Edu supported DEs (KDE, MATE,
> Xfce, LXDE, GNOME) in Stretch: it does. As kmod is already pulled in, no
> replacement is needed, I guess.
If this was added for loading the audio drivers, it's rather that this
is no longer necessary nowadays. See
https://wiki.debian.org/Modules#Automatic_loading_of_modules

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Holger Levsen-2
control: tags -1 pending
thanks

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:15:53PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
[alsa-base]
> If this was added for loading the audio drivers, it's rather that this
> is no longer necessary nowadays. See
> https://wiki.debian.org/Modules#Automatic_loading_of_modules

thanks for the clarification & yes, indeed, it was added for this…


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Package: education-thin-client
Version: 1.921
Severity: normal

alsa-base was a transitional dummy package in jessie and has been
removed for stretch.

Please drop the suggests in education-thin-client.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 9.0
  APT prefers unstable-debug
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable-debug'), (500, 'unstable'), (200, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 4.9.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.utf8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Source: debian-edu
Source-Version: 1.922

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
debian-edu, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
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 education-lang-de - Debian Edu applications for German installs
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 education-lang-de-desktop-kde - German Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
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 education-lang-fr - Debian Edu applications for French installs
 education-lang-fr-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for French installs
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 education-lang-he - Debian Edu applications for Hebrew installs
 education-lang-he-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Hebrew installs
 education-lang-he-desktop-kde - Hebrew Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-it - Debian Edu applications for Italian installs
 education-lang-it-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Italian installs
 education-lang-it-desktop-kde - Italian Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-ja - Debian Edu applications for Japanese installs
 education-lang-ja-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Japanese installs
 education-lang-ja-desktop-kde - Japanese Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-no - Debian Edu applications for Norwegian installs
 education-lang-no-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Norwegian installs
 education-lang-no-desktop-kde - Norwegian (Bokmaal and Nynorsk) Debian Edu KDE desktop applicatio
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Closes: 858209 858210 858346
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 debian-edu (1.922) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Remove no longer existing package alsa-base from tasks/desktop-other
     and tasks/thin-client. (Closes: #858209, #858210).
   * Cleanup tasks files from more non-existent packages. (Closes: #858346).
     -tasks/desktop-gnome: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio
     -tasks/desktop-kde: update-notifier-kde
     -tasks/desktop-lxde: aqualung, gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg,
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     -tasks/desktop-mate: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
     -tasks/desktop-other: browser-plugin-libreoffice, gnome-themes,
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     -tasks/ltsp-server: gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio
     -tasks/mathematics: graphthing
     -tasks/misc: freemind
   * Adjust tasks.ctl (used only for Debian Edu ISO image builds) to reflect
     these changes introduced in version 1.908:
     - Remove empty file tasks/lang-se-desktop-kde.
     - Rename lang-zh_TW(|-desktop|desktop-kde)
       to lang-zh-tw(|-desktop|desktop-kde) to get correct package names.
 .
   [ Holger Levsen ]
   * Review that all these changes indeed only affect packages, which don't
     exist in sid nor stretch and that they were only listed as "suggests".
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