Bug#884225: debian-policy: please add CC-BY-4.0 to common licenses

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Bug#884225: debian-policy: please add CC-BY-4.0 to common licenses

Markus Koschany-2
Package: debian-policy
Version: 4.1.2.0
Severity: normal

Hi,

as discussed on debian-devel [1] I would like to request that more DFSG
licenses are added to /usr/share/common-licenses and that package
maintainers are allowed to reference them.

License: CC-BY-4.0
Source: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Example packages:
https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#Creative_Commons_Attribution_unported_.28CC-BY.29_v4.0

Regards,

Markus

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2017/12/msg00209.html






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Bug#884225: debian-policy: please add CC-BY-4.0 to common licenses

Jonathan Nieder
Markus Koschany wrote:

> as discussed on debian-devel [1] I would like to request that more DFSG
> licenses are added to /usr/share/common-licenses and that package
> maintainers are allowed to reference them.
>
> License: CC-BY-4.0
> Source: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
> Example packages:
> https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#Creative_Commons_Attribution_unported_.28CC-BY.29_v4.0

Seconded (for CC-BY-SA 4.0 unported, not other Creative Commons
licenses).

Thanks,
Jonathan

> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2017/12/msg00209.html

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Bug#884225: debian-policy: please add CC-BY-4.0 to common licenses

Russ Allbery-2
Jonathan Nieder <[hidden email]> writes:
> Markus Koschany wrote:

>> as discussed on debian-devel [1] I would like to request that more DFSG
>> licenses are added to /usr/share/common-licenses and that package
>> maintainers are allowed to reference them.

>> License: CC-BY-4.0
>> Source: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
>> Example packages:
>> https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#Creative_Commons_Attribution_unported_.28CC-BY.29_v4.0

> Seconded (for CC-BY-SA 4.0 unported, not other Creative Commons
> licenses).

This doesn't seem warranted given current usage, unless we change our
model here to not care (as much) about usage.

CC-BY 1.0                 2
CC-BY 2.0                 3
CC-BY 2.5                11
CC-BY 3.0               165
CC-BY 4.0                28
CC-BY-SA 1.0              3
CC-BY-SA 2.0             44
CC-BY-SA 2.5             14
CC-BY-SA 3.0            285
CC-BY-SA 4.0             61

4.0 is a pretty niche license right now.  Maybe that's expected to grow at
the cost of 3.0, though....

--
Russ Allbery ([hidden email])               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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Bug#884225: debian-policy: please add CC-BY-4.0 to common licenses

Simon McVittie-7
On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 at 13:55:37 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> CC-BY-SA 3.0            285
> CC-BY-SA 4.0             61
>
> 4.0 is a pretty niche license right now.  Maybe that's expected to grow at
> the cost of 3.0, though....

I would hope that it is expected to grow, given that CC-BY-SA 3.0 has
annoyingly many juristiction-specific "ports" and CC-BY-SA 4.0 does not.

It would seem reasonable to have a general operating principle that if
we include a common-license, and the author of that license now
recommends using a later version instead, then we should include the
later version too?

    smcv

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Bug#884225: debian-policy: please add CC-BY-4.0 to common licenses

Markus Koschany-2
In reply to this post by Russ Allbery-2
Am 27.12.2017 um 22:55 schrieb Russ Allbery:

> Jonathan Nieder <[hidden email]> writes:
>> Markus Koschany wrote:
>
>>> as discussed on debian-devel [1] I would like to request that more DFSG
>>> licenses are added to /usr/share/common-licenses and that package
>>> maintainers are allowed to reference them.
>
>>> License: CC-BY-4.0
>>> Source: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
>>> Example packages:
>>> https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#Creative_Commons_Attribution_unported_.28CC-BY.29_v4.0
>
>> Seconded (for CC-BY-SA 4.0 unported, not other Creative Commons
>> licenses).
>
> This doesn't seem warranted given current usage, unless we change our
> model here to not care (as much) about usage.
>
> CC-BY 1.0                 2
> CC-BY 2.0                 3
> CC-BY 2.5                11
> CC-BY 3.0               165
> CC-BY 4.0                28
> CC-BY-SA 1.0              3
> CC-BY-SA 2.0             44
> CC-BY-SA 2.5             14
> CC-BY-SA 3.0            285
> CC-BY-SA 4.0             61
>
> 4.0 is a pretty niche license right now.  Maybe that's expected to grow at
> the cost of 3.0, though....
4.0 was released in November 2013, so it's still relatively new and you
can't simply bump version 3.0 to 4.0. The Creative Commons licenses are
ubiquitous when it comes to artwork, images, sound, music and other
media files. As previously mentioned I'm in favor of dropping the
criterion of license popularity because it is misleading and even
arbitrary in my opinion.

Markus



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