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Debian sid and etch artwork.

Gustavo Franco-2
[ Unfortunately the cross-posting is necessary, but hopefully after a
online meeting we will have a separated mailing list ]

I would like to discuss with you the Debian sid and etch artwork
infrastructure and after that the artwork itself. The plan is organize
a online meeting, but we can kick off it here and define our agenda.

The current status (fixes are welcome):
- kdm theme and kde splash and wallpaper are maintained only by
pkg-kde team and in their svn repository;
- gdm theme is maintained in gdm by Ryan Murray, gdm splash is in
gnome-session and wallpaper in desktop-base (splash is in desktop-base
too but unused atm);
- xfce splash and wallpaper are maintained only by pkg-xfce team and
in their svn repository;

What i think would be good (suggestions, please):
- Move desktop-base to a "neutral" svn repository (eg: debian-desktop
group in alioth);
- Give commit access to at least two members of pkg-kde, pkg-gnome and
pkg-xfce and rmurray in that "neutral" repository;
- Ask artists to work on a common wallpaper for Sid and Etch and three
different splash images and add these images in desktop-base;
- Ask artists to work on gdm and kdm themes based on the common wallpapers;
- Prepare desktop-base to build the kdm and gdm themes;
- Prepare desktop-base to let us change from Sid->Etch themes and
wallpapers with a simple change and single upload (alternatives?);
- Upload the new desktop-base;
- Change gdm, kdm, kde and xfce to point to the new images in
desktop-base and desktop-base built binaries;

Related wiki article: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopArtwork

I think in a online meeting we can discuss the details, who will do
what and define some more stuff like icon themes and all that.
Thoughts?

regards,
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Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Debian sid and etch artwork.

Yves-Alexis Perez
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 12:19 -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> [ Unfortunately the cross-posting is necessary, but hopefully after a
> online meeting we will have a separated mailing list ]
>
> I would like to discuss with you the Debian sid and etch artwork
> infrastructure and after that the artwork itself. The plan is organize
> a online meeting, but we can kick off it here and define our agenda.

Yeah, I guess we should setup some alioth project + mailing list, and
maybe an irc channel (#debian-desktop ?)
>
> The current status (fixes are welcome):
> - kdm theme and kde splash and wallpaper are maintained only by
> pkg-kde team and in their svn repository;
> - gdm theme is maintained in gdm by Ryan Murray, gdm splash is in
> gnome-session and wallpaper in desktop-base (splash is in desktop-base
> too but unused atm);
> - xfce splash and wallpaper are maintained only by pkg-xfce team and
> in their svn repository;

yes, we have a xfce4-artwork package with some wallpaper.
>
> What i think would be good (suggestions, please):
> - Move desktop-base to a "neutral" svn repository (eg: debian-desktop
> group in alioth);

agreed

> - Give commit access to at least two members of pkg-kde, pkg-gnome and
> pkg-xfce and rmurray in that "neutral" repository;

agreed

> - Ask artists to work on a common wallpaper for Sid and Etch and three
> different splash images and add these images in desktop-base;

I don't really know if we should have one common wallpaper for all
environnments. If we had a common template with (for example) the logo
of each environmment, wouldn't it be better ?

> - Ask artists to work on gdm and kdm themes based on the common wallpapers;

agreed

> - Prepare desktop-base to build the kdm and gdm themes;
> - Prepare desktop-base to let us change from Sid->Etch themes and
> wallpapers with a simple change and single upload (alternatives?);
> - Upload the new desktop-base;
> - Change gdm, kdm, kde and xfce to point to the new images in
> desktop-base and desktop-base built binaries;

agreed

>
> Related wiki article: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopArtwork
>
> I think in a online meeting we can discuss the details, who will do
> what and define some more stuff like icon themes and all that.
> Thoughts?

Yeah, I guess we should find some time to discuss this, but I don't
really know who is online at the moment and when do we have free-time.
There are currently 3 greatly implicated members in pkg-xfce (Emanuele
Rocca, Simon Huggins and me, with some other members which may be happy
to participate). For the schedule, we are all three of us from Europe
(but ema is in holidays :) )

Sorry for the noise.

Regards,
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Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Debian sid and etch artwork.

Gustavo Franco-2
On 8/1/06, Yves-Alexis Perez <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 12:19 -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> > [ Unfortunately the cross-posting is necessary, but hopefully after a
> > online meeting we will have a separated mailing list ]
> >
> > I would like to discuss with you the Debian sid and etch artwork
> > infrastructure and after that the artwork itself. The plan is organize
> > a online meeting, but we can kick off it here and define our agenda.
>
> Yeah, I guess we should setup some alioth project + mailing list, and
> maybe an irc channel (#debian-desktop ?)

I've received some feedback off-lists, and i think we can do this in
#debian-meeting @ irc.oftc.net. date and time to be announced really
soon, but the plan is follow the debian-installer procedure if nobody
tell us otherwise.

> (...)
> > - Ask artists to work on a common wallpaper for Sid and Etch and three
> > different splash images and add these images in desktop-base;
>
> I don't really know if we should have one common wallpaper for all
> environnments. If we had a common template with (for example) the logo
> of each environmment, wouldn't it be better ?

I think that minor changes wouldn't hurt yes, but keep in mind that
instead two images (etch and sid) we will start with six wallpapers. I
don't really care if the size is sane, the artwork looks good and
we've rules for the following changes.

> > - Ask artists to work on gdm and kdm themes based on the common wallpapers;
>
> agreed

I would like to point out that this is based as in 'following the
guidelines' and not really looking like the wallpapers as Joss pointed
out on irc.

> (...)
> > Related wiki article: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopArtwork
> >
> > I think in a online meeting we can discuss the details, who will do
> > what and define some more stuff like icon themes and all that.
> > Thoughts?
>
> Yeah, I guess we should find some time to discuss this, but I don't
> really know who is online at the moment and when do we have free-time.
> There are currently 3 greatly implicated members in pkg-xfce (Emanuele
> Rocca, Simon Huggins and me, with some other members which may be happy
> to participate). For the schedule, we are all three of us from Europe
> (but ema is in holidays :) )
>

That would be good if at least you and Simon show up in the meeting then.

pkg-kde and Ryan, thoughts about the subject? It seems that pkg-xfce
and pkg-gnome agree with the meeting for further discussions. Could
you confirm too?

thanks,
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