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Re:Re:OpenJDK default versions and security/patch updates

shirish शिरीष
Dear Behrooz,

As far as the source is concerned,

there is this -

$ dpkg -L openjdk-11-source
/.
/usr
/usr/lib
/usr/lib/jvm
/usr/lib/jvm/openjdk-11
/usr/lib/jvm/openjdk-11/lib
/usr/lib/jvm/openjdk-11/lib/src.zip
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/openjdk-11-source

https://packages.debian.org/unstable/openjdk-11-source

Maybe this is what you are looking for ?

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Re: Re:OpenJDK default versions and security/patch updates

Behrooz Nobakht
Thank you all for the explanations. It quite clarifies what can be expected.

There is still one open question from the explanations above. The next Debian
LTS will default OpenJDK 11. Does this mean that it would not be possible to have
OpenJDK 11 on the current Debian LTS in some way?

Thanks,
Behrooz


On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 5:37 AM shirish शिरीष <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Behrooz,

As far as the source is concerned,

there is this -

$ dpkg -L openjdk-11-source
/.
/usr
/usr/lib
/usr/lib/jvm
/usr/lib/jvm/openjdk-11
/usr/lib/jvm/openjdk-11/lib
/usr/lib/jvm/openjdk-11/lib/src.zip
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/openjdk-11-source

https://packages.debian.org/unstable/openjdk-11-source

Maybe this is what you are looking for ?

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Re: Re:OpenJDK default versions and security/patch updates

shirish शिरीष
at bottom :-

On 06/11/2018, Behrooz Nobakht <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thank you all for the explanations. It quite clarifies what can be
> expected.
>
> There is still one open question from the explanations above. The next
> Debian
> LTS will default OpenJDK 11. Does this mean that it would not be possible
> to have
> OpenJDK 11 on the current Debian LTS in some way?
>
> Thanks,
> Behrooz
>

Dear Behrooz,

While there is backports

https://wiki.debian.org/Backports

which means in theory you could have OpenJDK 11 in stable but in
practical terms it may not be easy.

AFAIK the java-team is smallish and needs more active hands. There has
been lot of code removed from java and made into stand-alone packages
. Migration even now may/might be a pain in some corner cases which we
do not know about as well as scenarios from stable to current testing.

See https://salsa.debian.org/groups/java-team/-/group_members to see
the current make-up of the team. You could look at the number of
commits etc. to see who are more active and probably would have more
of a say as to what happens.

See https://wiki.debian.org/WhyDebianForDevelopers for a historical
perspective of why things are the way they are, specifically The
Social Contract

https://wiki.debian.org/WhyDebianForDevelopers#Social_Contract

See https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/pkg-java-maintainers/2018-November/thread.html
and especially the auto-removal of binaries in testing.

One way to keep track things is to use
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openjdk-11 . If you want you could open
a wishlist bug against openjdk11 saying you want in backports.

Realistically though, I see it as a longshot and the only window might
be during the long freeze but that is also IF there aren't any RC bugs
for openjdk-11

https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/

One thing to keep in mind though, this is my personal opinion as a
user and observer of Debian-java-team and nothing more than that.

At the end the decisions are made by those who do the work.

<snipped>

>
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>

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Re: OpenJDK default versions and security/patch updates

Emmanuel Bourg-3
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Hi Behrooz,

Le 06/11/2018 à 00:44, Behrooz Nobakht a écrit :

> Does this mean that it would not be possible to have
> OpenJDK 11 on the current Debian LTS in some way?

By LTS I guess you mean Debian 9 "Stretch", and not Debian 8 "Jessie"
which is currently in its LTS phase until June 2020, right?. There is an
ongoing effort to provide OpenJDK 11 in the stretch-backports
repository. I expect it to be available this month.

Emmanuel Bourg