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Suspend in log out menu?

Sven Arvidsson
Hi,

I recently configured GDM to let me suspend my laptop from the actions
menu. This works fine, but I would also like to be able to do the same
from the log out menu on the gnome-panel. Is this possible in Debian?

I'm running unstable with the GNOME packages from experimental.

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Sven Arvidsson
> I recently configured GDM to let me suspend my laptop from the actions
> menu. This works fine, but I would also like to be able to do the same
> from the log out menu on the gnome-panel. Is this possible in Debian?

I noticed that this was possible in Ubuntu (suspend showed up in the
log out menu), is that a customization of theirs or something that
should be possible in Debian too?

If not, what package should i file a wishlist bug for, gdm or gnome-panel?

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Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 29 novembre 2005 à 15:06 +0100, Sven Arvidsson a écrit :
> > I recently configured GDM to let me suspend my laptop from the actions
> > menu. This works fine, but I would also like to be able to do the same
> > from the log out menu on the gnome-panel. Is this possible in Debian?
>
> I noticed that this was possible in Ubuntu (suspend showed up in the
> log out menu), is that a customization of theirs or something that
> should be possible in Debian too?
>
> If not, what package should i file a wishlist bug for, gdm or gnome-panel?

This is for gnome-session.

Note that I will refuse patches that add non-translated text to the
interface.
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Sven Luther
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 05:34:40PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:

> Le mardi 29 novembre 2005 à 15:06 +0100, Sven Arvidsson a écrit :
> > > I recently configured GDM to let me suspend my laptop from the actions
> > > menu. This works fine, but I would also like to be able to do the same
> > > from the log out menu on the gnome-panel. Is this possible in Debian?
> >
> > I noticed that this was possible in Ubuntu (suspend showed up in the
> > log out menu), is that a customization of theirs or something that
> > should be possible in Debian too?
> >
> > If not, what package should i file a wishlist bug for, gdm or gnome-panel?
>
> This is for gnome-session.
>
> Note that I will refuse patches that add non-translated text to the
> interface.

Just a question, isn't it a chicken and egg problem ? Will the translation
teams be able to provide translated strings for this new feature if the
feature in question is not yet in the package ? Also, what set of language do
you need translations for, in order to consider that it doesn't add
non-translated text ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Sven Arvidsson
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Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Note that I will refuse patches that add non-translated text to the
> interface.

Okay, maybe it's better to request upstream to add those changes for
the next version instead?

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Josselin Mouette
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Le mardi 29 novembre 2005 à 19:47 +0100, Sven Luther a écrit :
> > Note that I will refuse patches that add non-translated text to the
> > interface.
>
> Just a question, isn't it a chicken and egg problem ? Will the translation
> teams be able to provide translated strings for this new feature if the
> feature in question is not yet in the package ? Also, what set of language do
> you need translations for, in order to consider that it doesn't add
> non-translated text ?

IMHO, such a patch has to go through upstream, where it will be
translated during the development cycle. Of course, if the patch is
wanted badly enough so that people can convince a reasonable number of
translators to provide updates, this can be reconsidered. But I feel
we're not in the situation of nautilus 2.8, when so many people wanted
the browser mode back.

I know this can be awkward, but mixing translated and non-translated
text in the same interface is disturbing for users, and I feel it's more
annoying than a missing feature.

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Josselin Mouette
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Le mardi 29 novembre 2005 à 20:11 +0100, Sven Arvidsson a écrit :
> Okay, maybe it's better to request upstream to add those changes for
> the next version instead?

Sure. If such a bug was submitted to the BTS, I'd forward it anyway.

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Re: Suspend in log out menu?

Sven Luther
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 08:20:10PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:

> Le mardi 29 novembre 2005 à 19:47 +0100, Sven Luther a écrit :
> > > Note that I will refuse patches that add non-translated text to the
> > > interface.
> >
> > Just a question, isn't it a chicken and egg problem ? Will the translation
> > teams be able to provide translated strings for this new feature if the
> > feature in question is not yet in the package ? Also, what set of language do
> > you need translations for, in order to consider that it doesn't add
> > non-translated text ?
>
> IMHO, such a patch has to go through upstream, where it will be
> translated during the development cycle. Of course, if the patch is
> wanted badly enough so that people can convince a reasonable number of
> translators to provide updates, this can be reconsidered. But I feel
> we're not in the situation of nautilus 2.8, when so many people wanted
> the browser mode back.
>
> I know this can be awkward, but mixing translated and non-translated
> text in the same interface is disturbing for users, and I feel it's more
> annoying than a missing feature.

But it may drive them to provide a translation ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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