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openjdk-8-jre for buster

Larry Martell
Is it possible to get openjdk-8-jre for buster? 
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Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

Roberto C. Sánchez-2
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:20:58AM -0400, Larry Martell wrote:
>    Is it possible to get openjdk-8-jre for buster? 

If you specifically want to install the Debian packages, you will have
to add 'unstable' sources to your sources.list and install from there.
Note that you will want to make careful use of apt pinning [0] to ensure
that you don't bring in a whole bunch of packages from unstable that you
don't really want.

Aside from that, it is probably better (from a long term sustainability
perspective) to consider upgrading your application or process to use
openjdk-11.  Another possible solution is to manually install openjdk-8
from upstream tarballs.

Regards,

-Roberto

[0] https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences
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Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

Brad Rogers
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On Fri, 31 May 2019 11:20:58 -0400
Larry Martell <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello Larry,

>Is it possible to get openjdk-8-jre for buster?

Not from Debian.  See https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openjdk-8

Short version:  It's been removed and (to me it looks like) won't be
back.

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Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

Gian Uberto Lauri-2
>>>>> "BR" == Brad Rogers <[hidden email]> writes:

BR> Not from Debian.  See https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openjdk-8

BR> Short version: It's been removed and (to me it looks like) won't
BR> be back.

Do they run IcedTea against the OpenJDK 11 ?

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Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

Brad Rogers
On Fri, 31 May 2019 15:55:55 +0000
Gian Uberto Lauri <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello Gian,

>Do they run IcedTea against the OpenJDK 11 ?

I don't run IcedTea myself.  I found no need for it.

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Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

Liam O'Toole
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On 2019-05-31, Gian Uberto Lauri <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>> "BR" == Brad Rogers <[hidden email]> writes:
>
>BR> Not from Debian.  See https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openjdk-8
>
>BR> Short version: It's been removed and (to me it looks like) won't
>BR> be back.
>
> Do they run IcedTea against the OpenJDK 11 ?
>

Java Web Start has been removed from OpenJDK 11, so I doubt it.

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Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

Nicholas Geovanis-2
However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8 that 
"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental" and
"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all) into proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff) (signed by: Moritz Mühlenhoff)"
Does this mean that refitting of openjdk-8 has begun?

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 12:08 PM Liam O'Toole <[hidden email]> wrote:
On 2019-05-31, Gian Uberto Lauri <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>> "BR" == Brad Rogers <[hidden email]> writes:
>
>BR> Not from Debian.  See https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openjdk-8
>
>BR> Short version: It's been removed and (to me it looks like) won't
>BR> be back.
>
> Do they run IcedTea against the OpenJDK 11 ?
>

Java Web Start has been removed from OpenJDK 11, so I doubt it.

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Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

Roberto C. Sánchez-2
On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 04:30:17PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
>    However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in [1]tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8
>    that 
>    "[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental"
>    and
>    "[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all)
>    into proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff)
>    (signed by: Moritz Mühlenhoff)"
>    Does this mean that refitting of openjdk-8 has begun?

No.  See, https://bugs.debian.org/929650

Regards,

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Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

Jonathan Dowland
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On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 04:30:17PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
>However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8 that
>"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental" and
>"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all) into
>proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff) (signed
>by: Moritz Mühlenhoff)"
>Does this mean that refitting of openjdk-8 has begun?

That is preparation for updating the openjdk-8 package in *current* stable, i.e.,
squeeze, rather than Buster.

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Subject: Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 04:30:17PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
>However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8 that
>"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental" and
>"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all) into
>proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff) (signed
>by: Moritz Mühlenhoff)"
>Does this mean that refitting of openjdk-8 has begun?

That is preparation for updating the openjdk-8 package in *current* stable, i.e.,
squeeze, rather than Buster.

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Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

Roberto C. Sánchez-2
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On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 11:22:41AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 04:30:17PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
> > However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8 that
> > "[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental" and
> > "[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all) into
> > proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff) (signed
> > by: Moritz Mühlenhoff)"
> > Does this mean that refitting of openjdk-8 has begun?
>
> That is preparation for updating the openjdk-8 package in *current* stable, i.e.,
> squeeze, rather than Buster.
>
Since you say "current" stable, I assume you mean stretch.  The support
for squeeze (even LTS) ended quite some time ago :-)

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

Nicholas Geovanis-2
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Ah sorry, missed the deb9u1. Thanks.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 5:23 AM Jonathan Dowland <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 04:30:17PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
>However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8 that
>"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental" and
>"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all) into
>proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff) (signed
>by: Moritz Mühlenhoff)"
>Does this mean that refitting of openjdk-8 has begun?

That is preparation for updating the openjdk-8 package in *current* stable, i.e.,
squeeze, rather than Buster.

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Jonathan Dowland
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On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 08:00:17AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
>Since you say "current" stable, I assume you mean stretch.  The support
>for squeeze (even LTS) ended quite some time ago :-)

You're quite right. I frequently mix up stretch and squeeze: the forthcoming
run of Buster, Bullseye and Bookworm will be far more confusing for me :-(

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Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

Nicholas Geovanis-2
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 5:38 AM Jonathan Dowland <[hidden email]> wrote:

You're quite right. I frequently mix up stretch and squeeze: the forthcoming
run of Buster, Bullseye and Bookworm will be far more confusing for me :-(

Perhaps it is time to switch to a different movie franchise.
LOTR?
How could you run out of names? Just pick a language.... :-)
 
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Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

Paul Sutton-2

On 07/06/2019 16:16, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 5:38 AM Jonathan Dowland <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>
>     You're quite right. I frequently mix up stretch and squeeze: the
>     forthcoming
>     run of Buster, Bullseye and Bookworm will be far more confusing
>     for me :-(
>
>
> Perhaps it is time to switch to a different movie franchise.
> LOTR?
> How could you run out of names? Just pick a language.... :-)
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I agree with the naming convention and subsequent names starting with
the same letter can cause confusion.   However Toy Story 5 (or is it 4)
is out at some point so that may give us a whole new set of names to
choose from.

Should keep us going till the next toy story film comes out :)

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Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 04:23:25PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote:
> I agree with the naming convention and subsequent names starting with
> the same letter can cause confusion.   However Toy Story 5 (or is it 4)
> is out at some point so that may give us a whole new set of names to
> choose from.

Toy Story 4 comes out this month.  Toy Story 3 was from... wikipedia
says 2010, so it's been a while.

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Paul Sutton-2

On 07/06/2019 16:27, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 04:23:25PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote:
>> I agree with the naming convention and subsequent names starting with
>> the same letter can cause confusion.   However Toy Story 5 (or is it 4)
>> is out at some point so that may give us a whole new set of names to
>> choose from.
> Toy Story 4 comes out this month.  Toy Story 3 was from... wikipedia
> says 2010, so it's been a while.
>
I suppose, as users of Debian we have a good excuse to go and see Toy
Story 4 without any kids tagging along :D

Not that most cinema-goers or other visitors would understand the
connection if we wear something Debian Related.

Paul

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Richard Hector
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On 8/06/19 3:16 AM, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 5:38 AM Jonathan Dowland <[hidden email]> wrote:

You're quite right. I frequently mix up stretch and squeeze: the forthcoming
run of Buster, Bullseye and Bookworm will be far more confusing for me :-(

Perhaps it is time to switch to a different movie franchise.
LOTR?
How could you run out of names? Just pick a language.... :-)

So we'll need support for runes etc just for the name of the distro? :-)

Richard